Talk:Iraq War

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Former good article nomineeIraq War was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2019[edit]

A CBS news report is cited right after the sentence "In October 2002, Congress authorized President Bush to use military force against Iraq should he choose to." To guard against link rot, please add an archive-url (http://web.archive.org/web/20190823053520/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/congress-says-yes-to-iraq-resolution/) and an archive-date (2019-08-23). 123.201.225.33 (talk) 03:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done--Goldsztajn (talk) 22:47, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Need Subheadings[edit]

Some of the section of the article are long, meandering and difficult to follow. Subheadings are called for. For example, the Pre-War events section comprises 8 paragraphs with lots of facts. I added some subheadings to this section today but they were removed without real explanation ("not helpful" is not an explanation). --NYCJosh (talk) 01:30, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Removal of useful information[edit]

Snooganssnoogans - Why did you revert the following change? (also NYCJosh) Iraq-war
Further background on the unreliability and lack of quality intelligence the USA had prior to the Iraq war is entirely relevant to this article and it makes me really question your integrity when you remove stuff like this, as your edit history shows you have a clear agenda. This should stay up. I also find it bizarre you have an issue with someone removing content they don't like here, yet looking at your edit history, you seem to do this constantly? Any political views you don't agree with, you remove without any discussion. If there are any "serious concerns" here, then they relate to the biased, lack of NPOV editing style you are using Apeholder (talk) 01:34, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Please stop stalking me. Both edits were horrible and should have been reverted. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 01:38, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not run by your rules and there is no rule for an edit being "horrible". It was valid, well sourced and entirely relevant. I'm going to restore it. Apeholder (talk) 01:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Removal of well sourced, relevant information, and of headings much needed to guide the reader, is improper without a solid reason well grounded in WP rules. One editor's personal assessment that such an edit is "horrible" is not a proper reason.--NYCJosh (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
I think the edit is useful, since the WMDs story was the main selling point of the war. TFD (talk) 15:12, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
@Snooganssnoogans, NYCJosh, and The Four Deuces: I think that the various subheadings added by Josh in this edit [1] are reasonable, except for the first: "U.S. government searches for a way to attack Iraq immediately following 9/11". The subheading is justified by the text that follows, but it is extraordinarily heavy-handed and thus diminishes the credibility of Wikipedia. I think a good litmus test is the "Razor" in Raul's WP:LAWS: "An article is neutral if, after reading it, you cannot tell where the author's sympathies lie." Arguably the next added subheading "U.S. commences public relations campaign for war" could be better changed to "Public relations campaign," or something similar, though I'm not sure what's best here.
It's important that headings and subheadings not be editorial. -Darouet (talk) 16:45, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
The relevant policy is "Giving "equal validity" can create a false balance." Wikipedia articles accept as fact that the earth is round, the moonlanding happened etc. While the heading might have been seen as a matter of opinion at the onset of the war, today it reflects accepted fact. See for example the statement in The Iraq War: A Documentary and Reference Guide (Greenwood Publishing Group, 2012), p. 2: "The president's remarks suggest a determination to invade Iraq in search of a pretext for doing so."[2] Even at the time, neutral experts who had access to the material said there was no evidence of WMDs. TFD (talk) 17:40, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
I agree with what you've written, but that subheading I've flagged just does not read as encyclopedic. What about "Plans to attack Iraq after 9/11," or something like that? -Darouet (talk) 18:21, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Iraq War[edit]

It was in Iraq — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:24F2:F00:2036:19F8:A1DB:B044 (talk) 04:52, 30 April 2020 (UTC)